Monday, February 4, 2008
Discourse part 4 : dreaming
So Descarte things that every thought that is thought of has some points of truth. he says that our thoughts are most complete when they are we are asleep. I find this idea very hard to believe and something that I can hardly even think of. He also says thought that not all of our thoughts can be true since we aren't all perfect. All this kind of confuses me and makes the things that he has already said addressed even more difficult to conceive.
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I don't think he says our thoughts are most complete when we are asleep. But rather he says our dreams should not make us doubt the truth of what we think when awake. He also says we should not think that the truth can only be discovered while awake. The truth can also be discovered while asleep. But we should only be persuaded by "the evidence of reason." This makes sense to me. If you think about it, some of the greatest thinkers' discoveries originated from a dream.
the trick with dreams is that the evidence we are presented with is of the same quality as when we are awake--red things seem red, tall things seem tall, whether we are awake or asleep. our conscious mind processes these same ideas, but only in the waking case draws the (correct) conclusion that things out there are as they seem. so how to tell the difference, if not from the sensory evidence itself? do we have meta-evidence?
interesting...when you dream everything seems the same as when you are awake. Only when you awaken do you realize it was just a dream and it was not real or true what occurred. I am not sure how our minds can tell the difference between the evidence presented in our dreams and awake state.
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